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Islamic Foundation calls for death sentence if apostate fails to repent

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The Islamic Foundation has called for self-declared apostate Mohamed Nazim to be stripped of his citizenship and sentenced to death if he does not repent and return to Islam.

Nazim claimed he was “Maldivian and not a Muslim” during a public question-and-answer session with Islamic speaker Dr Zakir Naik, the first time a Maldivian has publicly announced he is not a Muslim.

According to the Maldivian constitution all citizens are required to be Muslim, and the country is always described as a “100 percent” Muslim country.

The 37 year-old angered many in the approximately 11,000-strong crowd with his statement during Dr Naik’s ‘Misconceptions about Islam’ lecture on Friday.

Dr Naik responded that Nazim had read the wrong books and “deviated from Islam”, and requested him “to read correct books on Islam, and Inshallah, you’ll come back to Islam.”

However Nazim did not relinquish the microphone and pressed Naik to clarify the penalty for apostasy.

“In Islam, there are many cases, it doesn’t mean death penalty,” Dr Naik explained. “But if the person who reverts who was a Muslim then converts to and becomes a non-Muslim and propagates his faith and speaks against Islam, and if it’s Islamic rule, then the person should be put to death. But just because a person who is a Muslim becomes a non-Muslim, death penalty is not the ruling.”

Nazim was escorted from the venue by police for his own protection, after members of the audience attempted to attack him.

Police Sub-Inspector Ahmed Shiyam said two men who tried to attack Nazim were arrested after they attacked the police officers protecting him. Nazim himself “was not injured because police protected him,” Shiyam said.

He was taken to a police building where a crowd of protesters had gathered, calling for him to be punished. Shiyam confirmed that Nazim is now being held in an undisclosed location for five days while police investigate “in consultation with the Islamic Ministry and the Prosecutor General’s office.”

Today the Islamic Foundation of the Maldives issued a press statement calling on judges to give Nazim the opportunity to repent “and if he does not, then sentence him to death as Islamic law and Maldivian law agree.”

“The Islamic Foundation believes that the person who announces apostasy should be punished according to Islamic laws,” the NGO said, warning that Nazim represented “a disturbance to the religious views and the religious bonds that exist with Maldivians.”

“Hereby if this man does not do his penance and come back to the Islamic religion, the Islamic Foundation of the Maldives calls to take the citizenship away from this man as mentioned in the Maldivian constitution.”

If case crossed into areas not covered by the laws of the country, “then the judges should rely on Islamic law,” the NGO stated, as per article 142 of constitution which says judiciary shall look into Islamic shar’ia on matters not covered in law, and sentence accordingly.

“So it is requested that the commissioner of police run the legal research on this man and take this to the Prosecutor General’s office. We also request the Prosecutor General to go through this matter and to take this man to the criminal court for trial,” the Islamic Foundation said.

A government official involved in the legal process, who requested that his name and department be kept anonymous, said he was “really worried” and described the case as “a very sensitive subject”.

“Police are investigating the case,” he said. “My understanding is that the court authorities will give [Nazim] opportunities to change his mind. I think he will be given every opportunity to think about his decision.”

Minister for Islamic Affairs Dr Abdul Majeed Abdul Bari told Minivan News that Ministry officials had acted quickly to remove Nazim from the venue “for his own protection”, and had now handed the matter over to the legal system.

“I don’t know if there is a penalty for apostasy according to Maldivian law,” he said.

The Adhaalath Party issued a press statement claiming that the act violated the constitution of the Maldives and called on the government “to strengthen Islam and protect the constitution.”

Religious NGO Jamiyyathul Salaf declined to comment on the matter during a press conference held today on another matter, however NGO Jamiyyathul Musliheen expressed “concern and regret” over the incident.

”Not a few number of Maldivian youths are moving further from the religion, and many of them are going renegade,” the NGO said in a press statement, adding that “it is a responsibility of the government to strengthen Islam in the country.”

President of the Human Rights Commission to the Maldives (HRCM), Ahmed Saleem, said “what happened was really unfortunate.”

“I think the best thing will be to talk to him and to make him understand the situation and the repercussions, talks which HRCM will welcome,” Saleem said.

He said he was unsure how the Maldivian government would handle the incident.

“I’m afraid of the reaction from the international community should we resort to harsh action,” he said. “I don’t think it would be in our interest – we have just been given a seat on the UN Human Rights Council. This is something we need to think seriously about before we start using harsh language.”

Minivan News contacted several local human rights NGOs however they had not responded at time of press.

A senior government source, who requested anonymity, said he felt the case “will be a real test of how the government will abide by its international commitments.”

Press Secretary for the President Mohamed Zuhair was on medical leave and unable to comment.

Minivan News was unable to reach Nazim himself for comment, however a person close to the matter described him as “a very sensible guy who will think of the people around him. But he will not give up on calling for people to be more honest about themselves. I think he will become a genuine refugee if he refuses to take back his words,” she said.

A transcript Dr Naik’s response to Nazim is available here.

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165 Comments on "Islamic Foundation calls for death sentence if apostate fails to repent"

  1. Leena on Sun, 30th May 2010 6:13 PM 

    get lost islamic foundation. you don’t speak for maldives. go back to saudi. it’s your extremism that puts these people off from islam

  2. hameed on Sun, 30th May 2010 6:24 PM 

    Don’t make a hero out of this lunatic…why we care if he choose to go to hell!

  3. Salim Waheed on Sun, 30th May 2010 6:27 PM 

    The reason why people are turning away from Islam is because we have religious conservatives declaring that the only way to practice is their way. And as a result we had calls for violence and beheading.

    Never have a I been more ashamed of my countrymen and what I am sad about is how our nation has turned to one of intolerance and hate.

    The youth are turning away from Islam and I believe that it is the conservatives fault. Those who say that the Islam which is practiced in Cairo, Indonesia and Malaysia is not true and that those people are apostates as well. The people who advocated nigabs and hijabs as the only way a woman can be pious. And those who would condone child abuse in the name of faith.

    They are all leading us towards societal regression. Ignoring our economy and potential for national growth. Ignoring our culture and heritage. There is so much that we are loosing. Day by day. We need to to not let go of who we are because some salafi based preacher tells us to.

  4. Fracture on Sun, 30th May 2010 6:30 PM 

    There has been increasing evidence that Minivan News is complicit in this matter to de-stabilize the country. I call upon the govt. to take severe actions against Minivan News & deport all the foreign nationals in the MN that are working against the laws & regulations of Maldives.

  5. Muas MZ on Sun, 30th May 2010 6:41 PM 

    I do not know if HRCM is supporting Islam or the West. Who does HRCM answer to Islam or America first? You need to understand that not all concepts of Human Rights can be allowed in a Muslim country. If you had your western way, we would see lesbians like the feminist and gays walking around Male’ openly knowing that HRCM is there to protect the ills of society.

    Maldives by law is a Muslim country. If you do not know this, look it up and start being a body which represents Maldives first and Islam first. Otherwise HRCM has no relevance for believers, nor would we give you any authority or any importance on matters which secular people might feel important.

    This is the ruling of Allaah and His Messenger, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever changes his religion, kill him.” (reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, no. 3017

    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/811/Apostasy

    The saheeh Sunnah indicates that it is essential to put the apostate to death.

    Al-Bukhaari (6922) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever changes his religion, put him to death.”

    Al-Bukhaari (6484) and Muslim (1676) narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god except Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah, except in one of three cases: a soul for a soul (i.e., in the case of murder); a previously-married person who commits zina; and one who leaves his religion and separates from the main body of the Muslims.”

    The general meaning of these ahaadeeth indicates that it is essential to put the apostate to death whether he is waging war on Islam (muhaarib) or not.

    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/14231/Apostasy

  6. Fandhara on Sun, 30th May 2010 6:48 PM 

    This is indeed a sad news. I hope government will handle this case well.

  7. Shaf on Sun, 30th May 2010 6:50 PM 

    Maley ga e oh kattar alhaameehun naai, anhenun ge iffaiy nagaameehunnaai, kudakudhin gayah araameehun maraafa thi kan kuran thaaeedhu. Alhefahe e ee eynayaa Allah aai dhemedhu oiy kamennu. Kon kamakaatha thi dhaiybaaruvanee..

  8. Anonymous Coward on Sun, 30th May 2010 7:06 PM 

    Leave Nazim alone!

  9. Marina on Sun, 30th May 2010 7:13 PM 

    A person, who has not raped, molested, stolen, taken drugs or murdered – who has just given a statement and asked a question to Dr. Naik should be given the death penalty???

    Though Dr. Naik said very clearly “Non-Muslims, take the microphone and pose your question” ???

    And according to Dr. Naik, just for apostasy the death penalty is NOT a rule in Islam.

    What I feel now is that the Islamic Foundation is not believing in the Quran, according to Dr. Naik. So we don’t know the reason why he was brought to Maldives…

  10. Wine Lover on Sun, 30th May 2010 7:18 PM 

    “…the first time a Maldivian has publicly announced he is not a Muslim”. JJ Robinson, you are just as bad as these mullahs. Are you stripping all the pre-1153 Maldivians who were Buddhists and Hindus etc. of their national status with retrospective effect? What about King Hassan IX and his fellow Christians? In 1998 many Maldivians were detained for their Christian faith. Not all of them recanted even under torture. The Gayoom regime had to release them under international pressure. They are still in Maldives and are practising Christians. Nazim is definitely not the first Maldivian who publicly declared his non-Islamic faith.

  11. mohamed on Sun, 30th May 2010 7:21 PM 

    why should we care a damn about the guy’s rights and sentiments if he does not care about ours.The guy should be punished.
    MAY ALMIGHTY ALLAH BLESS US n THIS GREAT NATION.

  12. Velaa on Sun, 30th May 2010 7:27 PM 

    At least Nazim is honest and came out with the truth and for that he is being called for the ulimate punishment. What about the many politicians, businessmen and many other Maldivians, who drink, have extra marital sex, never fasts, never even bother to do a single prayer? They are still Muslims only by name, yet they are practically not a muslim according to my understanding. Why can’t these Mullahs go against these people and call for their beheading?

  13. Naked Swimmer on Sun, 30th May 2010 8:00 PM 

    Why cant we practice a version of Islam that allows freedom of religion?
    There must be a version of Islam that is tolerant of people like Nazim.
    Then we do not have to kill him!
    In any case fair minded people with common sense must speak up for human rights.
    To let these Islamic scholars dictate how people live is destructive to society. They have a primitive and barbaric ideology.
    The mullahs should be re-educated by the MHRC.

  14. cheshire cat on Sun, 30th May 2010 8:09 PM 

    velaa…its because many of us live with double standards…in a sick society!

  15. Andy on Sun, 30th May 2010 8:38 PM 

    Lets analyse who is logical and illogical in this debate. Dr.Zakir Naik asked Nazim which part of Quran he disagrees. And the response from Nazim was that “he dont find any reason to read quran” and on the contrary he mentioned that he had read quran translation several times. Also, Nazim mentioned that if he needed to choose a religion he would review all religion which Zakir gave a good logical answer. Also, there are many logical examples out there that Nazim answer was illogical.

    One can blabber anything what he wants. I would have accepted Nazim’s comments if he had refuted any of the verse of Quran from his intellect or from confirmed evidence, which he could not. Instead, his statement were equivocal and feeble. I am sanguine that no one would have even oppressed him if he had asked such a question.

  16. mindless on Sun, 30th May 2010 8:47 PM 

    Islam is said to be an all Compassionate and all Merciful Religion. Why can’t Muslims show mercy according to their faith and accept that everyone may not choose to be a Muslim. After all we are discussing about a person who had the courage to be honest and speak out his thoughts!

  17. sinister.. on Sun, 30th May 2010 9:01 PM 

    This issue is not just about Mr. Nazim. He has professes his views to which he is entitled to. It does not mean he is wrong or right. May be he was just naive or trying to score a cheap point.

    But I am sure nothing in the constitutions prevents him from migrating to another state that allows for his beliefs. He should have done it quietly.

    Islam is NOT a religious issue, believe it or not. Islam a premier political issue that is used by Arabs to protect their autocracy. West to assert their strategic interests. Poor muslims for social equality and so on…

    Why is Islam discussed in a way to further a political debate? Exactly what is the intention of Minivan news to bring Islam as an ISSUE the centre stage while there is no issue at all.

    PLEASE FIND AN ALTERNATIVE TOOL TO PLAY POLITICS.. NOT ISLAM.

  18. Moosa on Sun, 30th May 2010 9:08 PM 

    Zakir Naik seems more like a sarcastic standup comedian than a religious preacher!. The best thing our young generation can do is keep him out of Maldives. This may just be the start of Maldives turning into Dhivehistan!!!

  19. Ahmed Anony on Sun, 30th May 2010 9:16 PM 

    Tell them Islamic Foundation boys to stop throwing innocent people out of the mosques first.

    @Velaa and cheshire: This society is full of these double standards. Heck, most of the “tr00 islamic nations” usually have these double standards.

    Here, let me demonstrate.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I81ArtQgn8

  20. moorne on Sun, 30th May 2010 9:17 PM 

    Look why are we worried about this one particular apostate?

    What about the rest of them? Let’s start with our president… ahem. I know this comment would never be published. but who cares. Minivan News is a bunch of Christian missionaries writing crap in the name of news.

    Back to what I was saying. Hang Anni, Sappe’ and Reeko Moosa first. These people have never gone for a prayer in the last 10 years and drink vodka like water.

  21. Miqdhad on Sun, 30th May 2010 9:43 PM 

    I totally agree with muas MZ! The authorities has to take strict action against this person, in order to protect our national identity! Islam is the main pillar of our identity.

  22. salem on Sun, 30th May 2010 9:46 PM 

    You cannot strip the citizenship of a person who was born in Maldives to a Maldivian parent. The law says Maldivian are all Muslims so if a person says he is not a Muslim does not make him Non Maldivian neither a non Muslim but rather he will be a Muslim and a Maldivian unless he rejects his citizenship of Maldives. Secondly who are these bunches of lunatics to utter words on death to a fellow Maldivian. Whoever calls death on our fellow Maldivian should be punished with maximum penalty for calling on to kill an innocent’s person

  23. Go Nazim Go on Sun, 30th May 2010 9:56 PM 

    I support Nazim 100%. To hell with the constitution of the Maldives and the unjust sharia. The constitution of the Maldives is unconstitutional.

    And a point of note, Maldives signed the UN declaration of human rights which grants religious freedom.

    Rejje ah dheeni minivankan

  24. Dhivehi Dhariyeh on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:05 PM 

    Just a week back or so we were boasting about gaining a seat on the UN Human Rights council with the highest number of votes. And now it seems they are preparing to prosecute a person and calling for his execution for choosing another religion.

    Are those guys with the beards and short trousers having such weak faith in Islam that their faith is destroyed when someone else changes religion. What does Maldives being 100% muslim have to do with one practising his own faith?? Then the whole world needs to be 100% muslim for these Maldivians to stick to their faith.

    Lets see how the “democratic and liberal” goverment deals with this. Having written in our consitution that we are a 100% muslim country n one needs to be a muslim to be a citizen is ridiculous enough. Now I think we are preparing to really ruin our image once and for all in front of the civilized world.

  25. Abdulla on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:09 PM 

    There are no verses in the Quran explicitly dictating the death penalty for apostasy

    A faith which people maintain because of the fear of death cannot be genuine faith.

    If all religions approve of execution for apostasy, Islam will be most effected because mostly it is peoples of other faith embracing Islam. Also There is no compulsion in Islam and therefor calling Nazims excecution is un-Islamic.

  26. Ahmed on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:15 PM 

    As Dr Naik correctly said, the death penalty is not automatic in cases like this. If Nazim doesn’t believe in Islam, I’m not sure what other religion will be suitable for him; ALL religions have their shortcomings. Both Judaism and Christianity are in fact worse than Islam in many ways.

    If he simply choses not to believe in ANY religion at all, but still believe in a single God, then I can’t see what law will allow a death penalty on him.

  27. Hani on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:23 PM 

    Harmless guy who asked a question:

    KILL! KILL! KILL!

    Known gang members, rapists, child molesters, murderers walking free:

    HAVE A NICE DAY!

  28. jamuna on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:26 PM 

    marina i request you to see the video again he did not say that for apostasy
    death penalty is not a rule in islam.

  29. Maldivian Buddist on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:27 PM 

    Nazim is a very brave person to speak out his mind in the gathering of fanatics. According to the Maldives Constitution he will remain a Maldivian as it categorically says that “citizenship cannot be withdraw from a Maldivian”.

    He is already a Maldivian therefore the clause which says that “to become a Maldivian a person should be a Muslim” does not apply.

    The fanatics and people who bring bad name to Islam should understand that Maldives is not a 100% Muslim country. Even in laboratories it is so difficult to produce 100% pure anything.

    My fellow mullah’s learn to live and respect others views, if not you lot may be wiped out by another tsunami. Nazom has every right to be a “whatever” he wants to be, same as you wanted four wives. He respects your view and never called to kill you lot.
    Maldives would have been a better country if it stayed as a Buddhist country.

    Surely there will be lots of World heritage site in the Maldives, had not these Mullah’s destroyed all statues.

    I request the international community to protect Nazim from the madness of Maldives mullahs.

  30. Beyya on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:29 PM 

    Why do we waste our time on this Nazim. By doing this we are giving him hero status. Can anyone honestly tell me if he is the only one who doesn’t go inline with the beliefs of Islam. The answer is NO..but many are there but they wouldn’t dare speak up. At least he was honest and open. So let him live his life and best would be for some scholars to convince him and bring him back to his senses.

  31. Many Nazims on Sun, 30th May 2010 10:29 PM 

    If Nazim is given the death sentence for his lack of a religious belief then it would be the end of Maldives’ reputation abroad. This in turn will be the beginning of the end of our tourism. Maybe “Muas MZ” and the Islamic Foundation can sustain the economy on goat herding alone.

    I call upon the international community to work towards freeing Nazim. He doesn’t deserve death but rather a medal for his courage for publicly declaring his views on religion.

    I wonder what good it does to an Islamic society to force apostates to remain silent for fear of death. Wouldn’t it weaken the Islamic character of such a society due to people having to pretend they are Muslims? Wouldn’t it actually benefit an Islamic society to know for sure who is and who isn’t a genuine believer? This can only be achieved by allowing freedom of/from religion.

    Let’s see if the “champion of human rights” has got enough dedication to the cause of human rights. Each day Nazim is in prison is a black mark on President Nasheed and the UN HRC member Maldives.

  32. Badhuru on Sun, 30th May 2010 11:07 PM 

    Dear Mr President and MDP team:

    1. This is a blatant broad day light violation of the right to freedom of expression enshrined in the constitution.

    2. Unless YOU take action on this – bring these political appointees to your office and give them a piece of your mind.

    3. As you very often say in your climate change speeches – if you don’t act now, we will die – you are making one of the BIGGEST mistake of your presidency.

    4. I am demanding immediate release of Nazim who has been ARRESTED for expressing his view and his personal view – Come on! why ARREST? You can never arrest anyone for this. This is entirely wrong and unjust. Re-do this. Call up Shaheem and Abdul Majeed and tell them they are out of their mind to demand investigation on this. Call Faseeh and tell them they cannot arrest him.

    5. Explain to us why your govt’s Islamic Min is not implementing your plan and why you are silent on this.

  33. dhona on Sun, 30th May 2010 11:42 PM 

    if nazim went to a religious scholar and he asked questions because he has not been able to believe in religion… majority wants him killed…

    did he ask this question for majority?

    No

    Did he ask this question for his own knowledge?

    yes

    i ask the majority… do you believe that Muslim women should dance in front of men… it is very clearly said in Quran that they are not allowed to…

    i want to ask you so what makes a Muslim woman in the Maldives such as niuma or people like rani group, who is publicly dancing and it is also broadcasted in national TV… people in national TV make programs to support musicians to models to keep modeling?

    i asked this question to my islam teacher too when i was in aminiya.. years back.. he said its not allowed to do so i asked him why does Maumoon Abdul Gayoom bring all the aminiya students and other school students on independence day to dance in front of him?

    you know what… My teacher got so pissed out that he kept me out of the class for the rest of the period… and also at that time i was one of the students who was involved in the independence day dance

    women dancing in front of stranger (men), which is according to quran and prophet mohamed is “haraam” but it is not haraam in this 100 percent muslim country..so exactly how are we a hundred percent muslim country… i am so confused???

    anything we do against religion(haraam things) will make us non muslim?
    or do we have to lie and say oh i am a muslim while drinking and dancing to be a muslim??

    now dont tell me we are 100 percent moderate muslims because we all know every single one in this country is not!! There are groups within groups to groups with in groups with different beliefs in one single religion… and it goes on and on!

    i dont even know what to believe in now… government? NGO, sheik fareed… ali rameez..bilal..naik etc etc… who are these people… why do i have to believe in them.. why cant i just believe in my self just like nazim did.

    is it so wrong to do so??

    If this government takes the citizenship rights of nazim or puts him to jail.. it means the government, human rights commission, Islamic ministry are all hypocrites.. and this country should not be given any opportunity in places like Geneva conventions, human rights,common wealth, or any other climate round tables to speak on behalf of whats right and wrong for the world.

    ISLAMIC LAW OF MALDIVES NEEDS REFORM… and if parliamentarians, judges and lawyers don’t know how to do so in my opinion they should all give their resignations.

  34. JJ on Sun, 30th May 2010 11:54 PM 

    I have to tell you giving the death penalty is the right way, what He (Nazim) has done is a big mistake. now lot of terrorists eyes are on Maldives because of what he said. sooner or later there will be blood shed and bombs!.

    so i pray to god and i wish and i hope even more than my life to give this guy his deserved DEATH PENALTY!!

    even if that has to do with me dying with him! i don’t want maldives to be screwed up over this guy! he is lame and stupid! he needs to be killed or burned alive!

    100% muslim we stand 100% muslim we die

  35. golha on Sun, 30th May 2010 11:55 PM 

    If everyone on earth was born muslim shouldnt we kill all christians and people? btw zakir naik is just another mullah! except hes in a suit! These bearded idiots should go back to saudi!!

  36. Issa Kirarira on Sun, 30th May 2010 11:56 PM 

    Let us support hameed who was clear that we should not make a hero out of this lunatic…why we care if he choose to go to hell!Hameds idea should be respected.If he has chosen to go it his way, it is between him and Hs creator.
    If the woast comes, take him like a lunatic.Would you kill a lunatic.
    Let ours be to teach and to continue teaching people about the prettiness of Islam and we leave them to decide.
    They should have not even bothered to arrest him unless if they were rescuing him from our Muslim brothers who could not tolerant his denial of Islam. Let us use the resources and energy we have on educating those willing than speeding it by arresting people like Nazim.The only thing I can go for is to plead with him to denounce the name Muhamad.
    Issa-Uganda

  37. ammadey on Mon, 31st May 2010 12:01 AM 

    HANG HIM BURN HIM KILL HIM DESTROY HIM BURY HIM ALIVE

    Islam forever \m/

  38. Maldivian Citizen on Mon, 31st May 2010 12:08 AM 

    I am a Maldivian Citizen and I am an ATHEIST. And there are many others,
    What nazim has done is very brave; and it is a reality that all maldivians should face – that Maldives has never been a 100% muslim country and never will.

  39. Dylan on Mon, 31st May 2010 12:42 AM 

    FREE MOHAMED NIYAZ IMMEDIATLEY.
    I call on the Maldivian Government to immediately free Mohamed Nazim.

    His human rights must be respected.

    The full force of the law must be applied to find and bring those who attacked him to account for their crime.

  40. viam ahmed on Mon, 31st May 2010 12:56 AM 

    now drp and mdp and even Parliament will make politics out of it and the extremists will make the best use of this opportunity to convince rather brain wash people that we need more extremist from abroad to come and preach how good its to do jihad or rather terrorism. Nazim i m proud of you. Im sure the barbarics would want to kill you but you ll be a free man soon.

  41. pharmacy technician on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:03 AM 

    Keep posting stuff like this i really like it

  42. abuguraib on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:14 AM 

    i think Nazim has a mental problem or else could be a deliberate attempt to destabilize the 11,000 strong crowed. there could be now more than 100s of non practicing Muslims in the Maldives. they can live peaceful in harmony as long as they keep their faith hidden.

  43. Aicha on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:16 AM 

    So who is a better scholar, these bunch of self-declared guardians of our religion Islamic Foundation or Zakir Naik?

    Zakir Naik explicitly said death penalty does not automatically apply in this case.
    The guy just asked a question.

    This country is not 100% anything, its impossible to make everyone believe in the same thing.

    I’ve even met a maldivian allergic to fish, one would have thought eating fish would be one of the most basics of being maldivian.

    The way to atleast interest him and others like him would be to show a compassionate and tolerant religion that Islam really is.
    Radicalism is going to push more people off religion.

  44. Robert Longdong on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:40 AM 

    The whole issue makes Maldives — and Maldivians — look like a joke in front of a rational international community.

    Welcome to the sunny side of life!

    This Haveeru version also made me not so proud to be Maldivian:
    http://www.haveeru.com.mv/english/details/30878

  45. Mina Kudey on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:45 AM 

    There are Many like Nazim … There are many like Sheikh Ilyas , Majeed , shaheem … IF our Religious Scholars are unable to convince a Non-believer to repent then thats their failure … I thought Zakir would convince him with enormous knowledge and experience this zakir claims …..

    Or zakir could have done it later .. and it was his duty as a scholar to convince this nazim … but zakir failed in his duty as a scholar and preacher …

    I call upon all religious scholars to convince him the right way …. if they cannot we don’t need them just for the sake of Huge Names and Certificates ..

  46. TDD on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:59 AM 

    The PROBLEM is with these “Mullahs & Modernists”. THEIR aversion to each other & THEIR need to prove/establish THEMSELVES/THEIR views as the ABSOLUTE, ULTIMATE truths. Oh the hypocrisy & sheer irony (just how alike these two groups are, DESPITE their efforts to “dis-associate” with one another)!!! BUT WHAT ABOUT US-THE REST OF US?!?” The “average” Maldivians are unfortunately caught in the vortex of this hatred that these “philosophers” incite. I, for one, AM SICK to the core by their actions & words. Too many cooks spoil the broth-now this must be why they say “ignorance is bliss” ;)

    But seriously though, we must learn not to let these “Mullahs & Modernists” dictate our way of life for us. Sadly, the word “moderation” is highly underrated these days :( Why do we feel that we must ONLY be at one extreme to get any attention/be taken seriously/lead a happy, “successful” life?!?

    That being said, I still have COMPLETE FAITH in US as a people (not especially as “individuals”). JUST STOP THINKING YOU ARE EITHER SUPERIOR OR INFERIOR TO OTHERS-WE ARE ALL EQUALS AS CITIZENS OF MALDIVES! Sometimes, we MUST put the COLLECTIVE ahead of the INDIVIDUAL. BEWARE of BOTH passive “non-conformism” & active “extremism”! I truly believe we could do so much better IF we CHOOSE to eliminate these self-appointed “factions” amongst ourselves.

    Good luck to us ALL!

    -Theduveri Dhivehi Dhariyeh-

  47. Abdullah on Mon, 31st May 2010 2:00 AM 

    This news report is a blatant lie and nothing but sensationalism. Dr. Naik NEVER said death penalty if the apostate fails to repent. He said if the apostate starts attacking Islam after apostasy then in an ISLAMIC STATE he will deserve legal action.
    This is perfectly ok. I wonder why u want to sensationalize it and provoke people. This is really bad journalism.
    point number 1, NAZIM had no reason to come on the mic and ask for death. He was just crazy. So stop this kerosene journalism. Dr. Zakir give a good answer and even told the crowd to be patient. u ignore it completely. What sort of newspaper is this minivan news. Full of anti Islamic people.

  48. Knight of Solamnia on Mon, 31st May 2010 2:33 AM 

    @Leena

    Agree. Force a child something to do, he will not do it. Ask him not to do something, he will do it. Makes me wonder whether Islamic Foundation guys are people at all. Were they ever children? Or were they Adult Robots Manufactured from Medina varsity?

    @hameed and Beyya

    Nazim is already a National Hero as the other Many Nazims also graciously pointed out. Why do YOU guys want to him strip of that basic right TOO?

    @Muaz Ms

    Yawn……………………………………………………..

    @Marina

    Dr. Zakir Naik clearly said death is not the punishment for apostasy.

    I do wonder why the Government wastes so many money from our Treasury to bring “unbelievers” like this to educate Maldivians.

    @Wine Lover

    Let me also add a prayer to all our unsung Maldivian Ancestor Heroes : the thousands of Buddhist Maldivians and non-Buddhist Maldivians (who refused to convert to Islam) who were systematically murdered to achieved “100 percent whatever status” and put in traditional bodu jaadi and other mass graves we now rosily call Historical Sites.

    @Ahmed Anony

    Awesome video, for a sex predator. Do we have any more of those Educational Videos in Arabic Mercy Syllabus 101? Or Middle-Eastern Suppressed Homoerotic Violence for Dummies and Sissies?

    @mohamed

    Why are your rights bothered? Did Nazim’s declaration of apostasy send a PHYSICAL ARMED WEAPON that destroyed your property, killed a loved one of yours or even maimed you in any way?

    @Velaa

    If they did, all Maldivians today will be missing a limb or two. What a sight that will be! Shawn of the Dead anyone? You don’t want Maldives to transform from Heavenly Paradise into the Land of the Walking Dead, do ya! Would made a good production studio location for Hollywood’s blockbusting Horror film shootings.

    @Andy

    Your defense of your personal religion will always be weak for those who don’t accept your personal views of your personal religion. I mean to say you might like rabbits and I might like German Shepherds.

    Are you an INDIVIDUAL by the way?

    @sinister

    What gives YOU the right to demand Nazim to emigrate? Why can’t NAZIM also demand that you go to Afghanistan and herd goats?

    However, you are still right about Arabs using Islam as a weapon to sustain their Anarchy and Aristocracy over the ordinary masses of the Middle East. So I’m going to let you off lightly this time.

    @moorne

    They drink vodka like water? Let’s hang Captain Haddock first cos he never drank water in his whole life.

    If anyone drinks vodka like water, let them die in their vomit. Who are we to judge?

    @Migdhad

    You sound like an idiot who thinks that your Identity changes every time Time Zone also changes its new stocks and arrivals once every six months.

    Did you work as a Sales Promoter at the rival College?

    @salem

    You seem right. I would go a step further and take the real action that Islamic Sharia law prescribes: Who ever calls for the killing of an apostate has to be punished for trying to close down all opportunity for the “apostate” to come back to Islam. Who knows? Nazim may even repent on his death bed. We know of many cases where on death bed many people realize the Truth in their Final Moment and they say “Laailaaha Illalloahu” before their Last Breath leaves from their nostrils.

    @Dhivehi Dhariyeh and Maldivian Buddhist

    Constitution says that Islam shall be the religion of the STATE. There is no clause that all Maldivian citizens have to be Muslims. The Constitution says that any “foreigner” who want to “belong to Maldives society has to convert to Islam first.”

    One could understand why the Clauses are like that. We have been more or less a homogeneous society and the people then were afraid there might be disharmony. But now that the Maldivians are ready to be part of the global community, what with no money in our Treasury and this Climate Change horror coming along, isn’t time we revert back and practice the real Islamic stand of tolerating other religions and even apostates.

    I have to say I have to agree that Maldives would have been much much better if our Ancestors had remained Buddhist. They wouldn’t harm a fly.

    @Abdulla

    The Islamic Foundation of Dhivehistan sounds like a watered-down version of the Nazi Party. Islam at gunpoint? Hitler would have been proud and would have recruited you in thousands.

    @Ahmed

    I would go a step further and take the risk of expressing a personal opinion. My personal opinion is that all religions are made by people who had good intentions for their people at a time when they were desperate cos there were no answers cos they had not yet discovered the Scientific Methodology.

    I think God more or less left things after Creation, to Evolve in the way it’s meant to be, and we can only Play Along to His Will.

    He gave us a brain and since Destiny is always written, He is just sitting there without interfering in our Universe.

    Therefore, the only people He will approve of in the End is the people who tried to maintain Balance of Nature and Life.

    That’s my Personal Opinion by the way. I may be wrong. Who knows. Who cares.

    Organizations like the Islamic Foundation are working against Nature by infecting human minds with anti-social SOFTWARE.

    @Badhuru,

    I couldn’t believe it too. An “apostate” “under investigation” and “under arrest” and even “court order extended” under the First Liberal Democracy under the First Democratic President under the First Rayyithun-Ge Government in Maldives’ 4,000 year old history……………… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    …ah… where was i? … before signing off,

    @dhona,

    Your Teacher sounded more like a Maumoon-Agent to me.

    Hypocrisy will be Maldivians’ UNDOING.

    I could give you something to believe in — a Pink Floyd CD.

    Good night, Knights!

  49. HassanK on Mon, 31st May 2010 3:37 AM 

    I think Nazim has asked for trouble by acting the way he did. We all know religion is a passionate issue for Muslims in Maldives. If he is a non-muslim he should have acted as a non-muslim which is self preservation by all means as the 1st pillar.

    What is his purpose by declaring such a notion in such an event. I can understand a man of faith doing illogical things by science but not by a man of no faith. He seems to be confused and lost (possible psychiatric condition) and need to be helped. I also blame recent religious scholars for creating an atmosphere of compulsion that is making people angree towards the religion. Not everybody can easily dislike the twisted scholars but still love the religion itself.

  50. Isotpoe on Mon, 31st May 2010 3:40 AM 

    Next thing that will happen will be Nazim will seek asylum in a country that is sympathetic to him.

  51. Noya on Mon, 31st May 2010 4:38 AM 

    Our constitution is in blatant violation of the UN Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms- Article 9: Freedom of thought, conscience and religion. I felt the need to paste the clause here after reading some of the comments;

    9.1.Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
    this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom,
    either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to
    manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and
    observance.
    9.2.Freedom to manifest one’s religion or beliefs shall be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a
    democratic society in the interests of public safety, for the protection of
    public order, health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and
    freedoms of others.

    First and foremost, Maldivians should be educated and made aware of what the “Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms” are and in particular the above Article- a national level debate must ensue among the gov, ngo, schools, community circles- then only can we achieve harmony and peace in a dynamic society that is deemed civilized enough and well equipped to cope with the 21st century challenges in a globalized world.

    The freedoms enjoyed by the western civilizations today are won by blood, war and much hardship, in which millions were consumed to death in the many confrontations and battles with the Church (the Supreme Authority then) through many centuries of religious totalitarian oppression.

    As life revolves in a cycle and history tends to repeat itself, the Islamic countries with the Maldives will be no different in the price they pay if they desire to attain the universal rights and freedoms deserving of their citizens in the time to come. There ain’t no easy road to this.

    A State or Institution that tries to control the very basic and personal traits of being a human- their thoughts, opinions, feelings, belief and faith through arbitrary means is the height of oppression.

    Imagine, India or any European country tomorrow amends their constitution to recognize only Hinduism or Christianity, what would become of the minority faiths? Should the Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, etc in India be called apostates and their religious books burned? Their citizenship ripped off and be made refugees? or be given an ultimatum to repent and if refused punishment by death? Just think of the injustice and cruelty this type of stipulation in any constitution can bring upon a society.

    The State should promote coexistence and tolerance instead of dictating one’s faith. The point is, you cannot control a person’s thoughts and conscience by the use of Fear in the name of religion. If so, then where is the beauty and spirituality in one’s faith? With such a feeble mindedness how can we ever achieve the states of higher consciousness.

    I gather that Nazim’s case is the first beacon to the inevitable uprising and Change is the only constant!

    Aye, for Pluralism!

  52. Alistha on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:35 AM 

    Zakir Naik gives answer to the question, it doesn’t mean death penalty for just converting from Islam to another religion. I think the Islamic Foundation needs a 2nd doze of Zakir Naik’s lecture.

  53. Idris on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:57 AM 

    Why are we worried about what the kafirs are going to think and how we a going to lose financially?
    Islam without doubt is the only religion accepted by god. For someone to oppose that deserves death.

    Remember any country who chooses shari’ah over democracy is automatically bombed and sanctioned by the Western Democratic governments, and any muslim who says sharia is better than democracy is jailed or labelled extremist or terrorist. Lets fight against this oppression rather than worry about what the west will think!

  54. Ali on Mon, 31st May 2010 7:02 AM 

    The Islamic Foundation is spreading wrong Islam. With Zakir Naik I reject the Islamic Foundation of Maldives for spreading wrong Islam in Maldives. They should be sent and sent to education with Nazim.

  55. Imran Ansari on Mon, 31st May 2010 7:33 AM 

    This guy Nazim looks like a European/Western agent who has been sent to rake up issue to malign Islam. It’s quite evident from the question he asked. He already knew the answer and the repercussions. His masters must have given him assurance that they will not let anything happen to him. Similar attack on Islam was carried out in Nigeria where an unmarried woman(an agent again) was sent to Islamic court to put up her (fake) case to the judge that she has a child “out of wedlock” but father is not paying anything for the child. So she demanded some monthly maintenance from father of the child. Now, didn’t she know what’s the punishment for adultery? She very well knew about it but she was just carrying out commands of her masters. This was made a big issue in the international community after the judge pronounce punishment for committing adultery (zina). I would suggest that proper investigations be done at whose behest this guy is working and then punish him on the basis of being a traitor. Because if death penalty is pronounced as per Sharia’ then this is going to become international issue which seems to be the goal of this whole issue and under pressure the government will have to release this guy. So find out who he is working for and if found guilty just punish him for being a traitor who wants to bring instability to the region.

  56. Ekaloa on Mon, 31st May 2010 8:18 AM 

    To get easiest way of fame and media attention now a days is basing Islam.Thats a trend in western media, if you write or draw something bashing Islam, it will be headline every where these days. They will be invited all major medias and talking points of the week it will be. Nazim is definitely an opportunist to get media attention. He don’t care about any religion. Only thing he want is to get fame and may be an easy route to live or get asylum.

  57. people with guts on Mon, 31st May 2010 8:21 AM 

    My fellow brothers and sisters who believe in such people like DJ Zakir Naik (the performer) are indeed the people who are very weak in their mind. All they could say that they are 10000% muslim and go on raping, stealing, drinking and all that shit. I got lot friends who claim they are muslim and what is inside them is perverts n sick sick thoughts. you ask the majority of people if they are muslim, and they’ll proudly say YES! why? because they got no balls no guts to say the TRUTH! Even you yourself who is reading this should ask your own self about what you have done bad n good on this earth. you may lie to every person on this earth but not yourself and GOD himself. I think Nazim is a man with lot of guts and he should have the freedom to express his own thoughts weather it’s a crown of 11000 or a billion. HE’s the mann and just ask your self if you have the guts as much as him. If not, just hang or behead ya own self cuz ya tooo weak to be upon us species.

  58. Anonymous Under Duress on Mon, 31st May 2010 8:23 AM 

    Nazim is just a vocal symbol for Maldivian society who refuse to voice their beliefs/lack of such for fear of reactions such as this.

    Regardless of the anger expressed by insecure babies whose only claim to religiosity is making loud declarations of their faith and superficial shows of devotion which amount to public spectacle, there are MANY MANY MANY MANY UNCOUNTABLE Maldivians who do not fit themselves into the fashionable religious box of the day. It was Azharite Islam before, It’s Salafi Regressionism now. I myself do not adhere to the political interpretations of Islam spouted by clerics whose only interest is in continuing wars and challenging international power structures at the expense of ordinary people.

    HARDLY ANYONE who has an intellect above 120 actually does sell their souls to Houdinis like Naik (who forces everyone to refer to him as Dr. to hoodwink them into affording him a status which he does not deserve). The conflict here is between the educated social and academic elite of the Maldives and those average Maldivians who buy into populist notions of piety which feed their anger at those around them who are more gifted, better educated, have more money and do not need crutches and opiates to get through the day.

    I would like to be less caustic but the exploitation of the mentally weak among us threatens to endanger those who can actually serve this country in leadership capacities. Dishonesty will become the norm in this context where expressing one’s true feelings gets one axed (literally).

    FYI – Dr. Naik’s lectures are MEANT for 5th graders and therefore appeal to those of little intellect. Do not be enraged or surprised that those of us who have a 3 digit IQ do not care for them. We don’t have to and will NOT.

  59. Alan Rossman on Mon, 31st May 2010 8:26 AM 

    I am happy to see so many who are honestly acknowledging that Maldives is not a 100% Muslim nation; in fact, it never has been. Even Dr. Zakir said he doesn’t know of any place that is 100% Islamic. In fact, if all the Maldivian non-believers had the courage to go public as Nazim has, the jails would be full and the courts would be swamped by perhaps thousands of honest apostates.
    Laws and governments cannot make believers out of non-believers. Laws and governments can only make liars out of non-believers who must keep silent to stay safe.
    Noya was right: Change is coming, Maldives will have freedom of religion someday, and the sooner the better.

  60. Marina on Mon, 31st May 2010 8:39 AM 

    It is very clear that Naik said that the death penalty applies if an apostate speaks against Islam, and in an Islamic state, this person would get the death penalty (we are not an Islamic state).

    However, that doesn’t mean that I take everything this guy says. He clearly wanted to tell Nazim that he has wrong education, and to better watch Peace TV (?!) and read the “right books”. The analogy with his patient (don’t question the doctor) or a student-teacher (you have to believe what the teacher tells) show that Naik tried his best to CONVINCE Nazim to NOT question, but take whatever he “has to believe”.

    Not questioning means “speaking right from the horses mouth”. Being a doctor or a teacher, or a mullah – not answerable, not transparent – oh, are we hiding something?

    In my point of view, a doctor, or a teacher should not be fed up by patients/students posing questions.

    Naik was cornered and came up with some stupid kindergarden stories (food, poison etc.). He is trying to compare facts (e.g. poison) with fiction (religion).

    Naik has proven to be a charlatan! He could not say that the reason why we should be “good” (e.g. to NOT rob) is because of our human ethics – that’s what differentiates us humans from savages! Instead, he keeps on threatening with judgement day.

    Naik was promoting his channel, tapes, CDs, books and his Islamic schools. Most of his talk was crap and anti-Western (“you eat pig, you behave like a pig” – the explanation of the tapeworm wasn’t even correct… it will stay alive in half-cooked pork, not in thoroughly cooked pork).

    “Today science tells us…” was one of his favourite – while he’s loud on quoting quranic and biblical verses, he could not give a single reference for “what science tells us”.

    Naik first encouraged non-muslims to come to the microphone, then why was there a public outcry?

    Nazim has just made his personal decision just like 80% of the world: to be non-muslim, and probably to be like around 15% of the world’s population: to be non-religious or atheist.
    He did not rape, he did not molest a child, he did not steal, fornicate or murder – he did not commit a crime.
    He was just honest. For that he should be punished?

    “Oh, there’s an atheist… he doesn’t fit into our 100% Muslim label… let’s kill him”.

    Fell like my country has finally come back to the medieval ages… congratulations.

  61. mash on Mon, 31st May 2010 8:49 AM 

    death sentence? Islamic Foundation, seriously?

  62. Rocket on Mon, 31st May 2010 9:02 AM 

    I too have a feeling this whole thing is STAGED.
    And there may be people backing Nazim.

    Simply declaring that one does not believe in Islam or a religion does not punish him with death penalty.

    May be people wants to spread more rumours about religion specifically Islam in Maldives. These people will be only happy if death penalty is called for Nazim.

    @ Muas MZ
    I suggest you re-read what apostacy in Islam is.

  63. Marina on Mon, 31st May 2010 9:09 AM 

    It just sounds so ridiculous to me that Naik or the Islamic Ministry really think they could REVERT Nazim?

    How can you revert an atheist who has realized that political power and control over a mass of people is the only aim of organized religion?

    I could not agree more with Alan Rossman above: “Laws and governments cannot make believers out of non-believers. Laws and governments can only make liars out of non-believers who must keep silent to stay safe.”

  64. YokYok on Mon, 31st May 2010 9:27 AM 

    You have foreigners living in the Maldives who are Christians, Buddhist, Athiest and any other religion small or big. Nobody cares, and we all live peacefully. Heck we even invite them to our house for dinners.
    Yet, a Maldivian suddenly says he is not Muslim. Biggest problem this country has faced. All Muslim Maldivians rights were violated in an instant.

    This is a typical example of double standards.

  65. No Questions on Mon, 31st May 2010 9:33 AM 

    No Doubt that he will be in the History Books.. There is Internet now.. No one can hide history anymore.. Nor more rannamaari stories..

  66. Naked Swimmer on Mon, 31st May 2010 9:54 AM 

    What the HRCM has to do is protect and defend human rights.

    The whole commission should resign in shame for trying “to talk to him and to make him understand the situation and the repercussions”

    And shame on every NGO, every politician who has publicly spoken about defending human rights.

    Shame on the Maldivian people for letting bloodthirsty barbarians like Islamic Foundation decide how our country should be governed.

  67. Mohamed Fyzul Lathif on Mon, 31st May 2010 9:57 AM 

    I feel Nazim want him to publish himself to be a hero of maldivens to be popular in news by saying non-muslim himself and also he may be a mental guy. First he should go for medical checkup and he then he should teach what is islam, before give judgement

  68. yaamyn on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:13 AM 

    I demand the resignation of the HRCM for failing to step into the protect the man.

    Having been around the youth – and being young and idealistic myself – I can easily state that the reason why youth is steadily moving away from religion is because of the bleeding credibility of Islam ever since it was hijacked by Salafist extremists.

    It’s extremist, intolerant organizations like the “Islamic Foundation” that makes both Muslims and Non-Muslims revile organized religion, not Naazim.

    This ‘call’ to prescribe death to a man for being honest betrays nothing but this fanatic, flaming intolerance of these lunatics.

    It’s my honest desire that all salafi indoctrinated folk, who demand death, violence and butchery at the merest drop of a hat be given some counselling.

    If that still fails to wash away the desert barbarism, then ship them off to the desert.

  69. apple on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:14 AM 

    This situation is entirely created by the extremists, where the virus started spreading from. They convert all ladies to wear buruga (in this hot country), and beardo guys with short pants. It is useless the blame later on the ‘bellboy’ Nazim. Political freedom when necessary was opened by Nasheed. Welcome! Now I think for Maldives – Freedom of religion whether like it or not, accept or not, is called for.!! There is an unspoken religious war going on between the mullahs and wahabis./moderate muslims/apostates/aeithests and what nots. It has to be stopped, only way is open up, so whoever can practise whatever. After all Maldives is supposed to be democratic, which means religion as well.

  70. Ahmed Anony on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:18 AM 

    Why are these brain-dead extremists so desperate to build a shari’a state here in Maldives?.

    Especially when even the most fanatic supporters of Shari’a law are unable to name EVEN ONE COUNTRY under Shari’a law that is free from intimidation, injustice, cruelty and terror. They always say “just watch the new Maldives…”

    Oh, they had the chance to “revert him to Islam”, but the idiot squad just dashed that hope.

  71. The Balrog on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:22 AM 

    In Maldives, when was there ever human rights when it came to issues such as this. Today, I am ashamed to call myself a Maldivian. May Maldives sink into the Indian Ocean before 2020.

  72. SHLO NAIVE KIDH on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:28 AM 

    Welcome to Maldives 2010 – new edition of 1984!

    The Ministry of Islmaic Affairs petrol the streets. They carry a device that they strap on randon passers by. This device monitors the thoughts of the person on whose wrist it is stapped on. If any unIslamic thought is found he is taken t the Fish Market and beheaded. No woman is ever taken because women never come out of their homes.

    Good bye Sunny Side of Life!

  73. yaamyn on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:36 AM 

    Agreed.

    I have never been more ashamed to be a Maldivian than this day.

    Sane men of the Dhivehi nation have been replaced by foaming mad dogs – and now, they own the religion.

  74. enough! on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:46 AM 

    i cannot believe this society has divided become so violent over one man’s question.

    if nazim is a threat to society then zakir naik was a worse threat. we don’t need these ridiculing, provoking people coming and preaching in the name of islam while they are looking to expand their business. open your eyes maldivians!

    and now we have bilal phillips scheduled for next week. are we testing how far the violence will go? are we inviting bloodshed? I SAY ISLAMIC MINISTRY DON”T BRING THESE PEOPLE TO TAKE OUR PEACE AWAY. we have the qur’an, the translations, the hadhith books and peace tv too. please don’t make our people kill one another. this is enough already!

  75. hollow man on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:54 AM 

    just becos you are born to a muslim family does not mean u r a muslim. and besides In his words, he was never a muslim, so u can never give death penalty to him, convince him the greatness of the Islam, plus according to Art 9 (B) of the Constituion of Republic of Maldives 2008 “No citizen of the Maldives may be deprived of citizenship”. get a constitution and see this. so he is a non muslim Maldivian, I find it hard to digest, but have to agree Nazim about his own faith. So get him towards Islam by talking, Inshaa Allah.. We might see a much more religious generation from Nazim’s Blood

  76. viam ahmed on Mon, 31st May 2010 11:15 AM 

    his head will show that we are know better people than the people of zimbabwe. also show we are barbarians.

  77. Mullomar on Mon, 31st May 2010 11:16 AM 

    There are 3 options for Nazim

    1. President Nasheed to forgive him and make him Minister of Economics and Trade

    2. America to give us as many GITMO detainees and send Nazim to America. (Land of freedom and opportunities)

    3. Take him to middle of Kashidhoo kandu and leave him on a dingy (with no food)

  78. Ilham on Mon, 31st May 2010 11:20 AM 

    where are the so-called human rights NGOs on this matter???? Transparency??? Detainee Network??? Anyone? Useless bunch of cowards.

  79. maryam S on Mon, 31st May 2010 11:29 AM 

    Allah says in the quran (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Whoever disbelieves in (ie.,denies) Allah after his belief…except for one who if forced (to renounce his religion) while his heart is secure in faith. But those who (willingly) open their breasts in disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment.
    That is because they preferred the worldly life over the Hearafter and that Allah does not guide the disbelieving people.
    Those are the ones over whose hearts and hearing and vision Allah has sealed, and it is those who are the heedless.
    Assuredly, it is they, in the Hearafter, who will be the losers.
    (Quran, Syrah 16, an-Nahl, verses 106-109)

  80. fathima on Mon, 31st May 2010 11:59 AM 

    Stop talking nonsense and think critically. We know who are behind all this, it’s not a secret. We know who talked nazim into this. Anyway nazim did not use his freedom of expression but rather he abused it. What nazim did was not freedom of expression. The meaning of freedom of expression is misunderstood by many people. For example you don’t go into a church full of prayers and declare that you do not believe in god or Jesus. If you do such a thing you are violating the freedom and the right of others. If you want answers for your misconceptions than you meet with a priest alone. Nazim did not pose a question but he made a statement.

    Nazim is a confused man and I believe he is mentally unstable too. He wants to know his verdict in Islam. This is hilarious. He says he doesn’t believe in religion and I wonder why he wants to know his verdict in Islam or any other religion. This was something planned and we know the people behind this. Later Nazim says he needs to study all religions to decide what religion is most suitable for him. He is contradicting what he said before. He said he don’t believe in any religion. Hahahaha dhen lalalalaa

  81. haamudhuru on Mon, 31st May 2010 12:33 PM 

    NAZIM IS OUR HERO
    I call on the government to set Nazim free and send him to another country for his safety because a minority Maldivians are a bunch barbarians with zero tolerance.

    Under Maldivian law he cannot be stripped of citizenship. He cannot be prosecuted neither by Islamic sharia nor by Maldivian law since he has never been a Muslim. How can he leave Islam if he never believed in the first place.

    If he were to be tried, he should stand firm and should not back down.

  82. mad headed tea party on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:13 PM 

    dhivehin islam dheeney kiyaigen mioh dhakkaa vaahaka eh dhoa. aharumen islamunney kiyaigen beynun gothakah ulhefa amilla self ah ves olhuvaalaigen ulheny. naazim honest veema faniveee dhoa. ekahala kithah ethiestun vagah ulheytho balaa bala.

  83. ali ahmed on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:27 PM 

    nazim should nt be jailed. for him to be beheaded as islam say he should be a muslim before he left it. if he was not a muslim from the start meaning after he reached puberty than we can t say he could be beheaded if we thin so then we should start beheading all the non Muslim in the resorts too. let him work free and be. why dose evryone wants to see blood and be barbarians in the 21st century. Also if this is about following Islamic preachings then why is bank of Maldives open still. Zakir nike openly said it not allowed or haraam to have interest running banks in islam. you all who call for beheading of nazim are simple hypocrites.

  84. The Mist on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:43 PM 

    hehehe only because he have different point of view he must be dead?very nice introduction to religion of peace Islam just present days wild madness of crazy wahhabith maniacs in Maldives.

  85. Mode on Mon, 31st May 2010 1:49 PM 

    “Minivan News contacted several local human rights NGOs however they had not responded at time of press.”

    Can someone please explain what these so called NGOs actually do? other than line their own pockets.

  86. ab. hadi qureshi on Mon, 31st May 2010 2:07 PM 

    Assalamualykm, my dear muslim bros n sistrs, plz try 2 realize that such things r happng because v hav left far behind the beautiful teachngs of muhammad(SAW) , he(saw) said that if u hold fast 2 qur’an n my teachings u will never go astray, its time for us 2 go back 2 d qur’an n sunnah only then v can attain prosperous life here and in the hereafter(Aakhirah).

  87. dhona on Mon, 31st May 2010 2:10 PM 

    @ knight of solamnia

    oh you listened to pink Floyd too… and here i was thinking i was the only one…:D

    but you know its become too old for me to believe in… i would rather prefer lady GAGA now to believe in… i always keep wondering if she is real….???

  88. Many Nazims on Mon, 31st May 2010 2:40 PM 

    The following is a story well known to Maldivians, mostly because of the Egyptian TV series on the lives of the Prophets shown every Ramazan. It seems most Maldivians did not get the message of this story involving the Prophet Ibrahim.

    ——-
    One day Ibrahim (AS) invited a Majoosi, a fire worshiper to have meals with him. On sitting down to eat Ibrahim (AS) asked him to begin in Allah`s name; to read Bismillah. The Majoosi said, “You want to buy my deen with your one meal, I am a fire worshiper, why must I Take Allah`s name?”

    “You want to buy my deen at the cost of a mere meal.”

    This shocked Ibrahim (AS) who said there is only One Allah while this person wants to eat in the name of his fire. Not being able to tolerate this shirk Ibrahim (AS) asked him to leave. ALLAH immediately sent Wahi to Ibrahim (AS): “For the past ninety years this person has not taken My name at all, in spite of which I have been feeding him without fail, while you found it difficult to feed him just this one meal.”

    “Immaterial of whether he takes My name or not you cannot eat until you bring him back and make him happy.”

  89. Well done.. on Mon, 31st May 2010 2:52 PM 

    Society is dived now, it will be easier to manage.
    Nazim did what is expected of him.

  90. Marina on Mon, 31st May 2010 3:19 PM 

    Let’s see what will happen during the next show – child abuser Bilal Philips and wannabe-Jesus Green – brought by Salaf! “Watch Peace TV” – what live in Male’?

  91. nazim on Mon, 31st May 2010 3:22 PM 

    that nazim must be a total loser.he doesn’t believe in Islam but wants to know what is the verdict in Islam for people like him.not only that the guys own wife wears a veil just like a Muslim.some body is paying the guy to say that.if doesn’t believe in religion why would he want to study the religions(which he does not believe any religions in the first place) Maldivians always want to make a big deal about losers like that. Maldives is not the sunny side of life.its the place to see the fools of the world.if the guy is such a big atheist why doesn’t he have a non Muslim name.i would never again come to loser ville Maldives population 300000 idiots if some one paid me to come.

  92. moon on Mon, 31st May 2010 3:38 PM 

    Nazim is not a hero. He is someone who tried to break maldivian unity and bring unstability to the country. I am not a religious person – but I condemn his actions and call the government to him harsh punishment to him. This is a democratic country and we should respect the sensitivities of the majority.

  93. The-Cop on Mon, 31st May 2010 4:10 PM 

    Hi juditiary of the maldives, Allah is one & only the witness of what you judge is right or wrong you will be examine and ou will be get best judgement on the day of Aakhirah.

  94. Mariama on Mon, 31st May 2010 4:35 PM 

    Medical doctor Zakir Naik asked Nazim to start reading the correct books. I would like to ask Nazim to listen to the right people about Islam. What is Zakir Naik a medical doctor doing making money for his Peace TV in the name of promoting Islam?

    When Nazim said he wanted to read books on other religions before deciding on a religion, Dr Zakir Naik did not know what to say. He attacked Nazim in a way that made him even more stupid. Of course people will need to taste whatever food that is available to decide on the best food. Student must be given a choice to read books that they like. Plus medical doctors will have to be questioned about the medicines they give. We have come to the state we are in because we were not allowed to ask any questions. May it be about religion, facts of life, politics, you name it.

    Zakir Naik also said if you start asking so many questions to a medical doctor he will tell you to get out of the room. You can’t ask so many questions as if you are the doctor. Well patients asks questions because they do not know not because they think they are doctors.

    So get out of your moral high horse and stop acting like a God. You are not THE person and you DON”T KNOW ANYTHING. You failed the test the moment Nazim asked the question

  95. ahmed fazeel on Mon, 31st May 2010 4:52 PM 

    nazim is a hero. he challenged zakir nike and discredited him. it will very hard for the govt. do digest that there so called public money well spent scholar turn to be prick and not a scholar at all.

  96. The Nationalist on Mon, 31st May 2010 5:19 PM 

    I call the government to give harsh punishment to Nazim so that it will be a lesson to anyone who tries to break our national unity. Say no to Salim and Hillath’s call to provide freedom for homosexuals.

  97. mujey on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:00 PM 

    nazim is a crazy dude who cud not mind his bussness …thats all what i can say just leave it from there and he should have been for him self … may he needed another country citizen ship …or he just wanted to become famous …. no one in is that brave … unless he is out of his sense… may be he wanted to proove his love for his girlfriend /….haha who knows whats in his stupid mind now …

  98. A Ahmed on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:06 PM 

    First of all, let us all see what Ahmed Saleem HRC has said with regard to the apostate!

    “I’m afraid of the reaction from the international community should we resort to harsh action,” he said. “I don’t think it would be in our interest – we have just been given a seat on the UN Human Rights Council. This is something we need to think seriously about before we start using harsh language.”

    Not surprising though, those Kabalist associates seem to be angered, bothered and furious with anything Islamic while they dance to the drums of so called ” HIGH POWERED BIG NAMES ” shame on those!

    However, I would agree with the guys who say “let Nizam choose his way”. After all he himself will have to face the consequences in this world and the Hereafter very before the Alminghty Allah. But undoubtedly, his action has antagonised many Maldivians and left an adverse impact on our closely knitted society . In deed this is a harbinger of many of such stuff yet to come.

    Thanks to all propogators of Islam, Salaf, Islamic Foundation and all for the hard work they are doing to salvage this our beloved nation from the shackles of treachrous kabalist associates.

    Thanks! Up hold your duty to Allah

  99. Shakir on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:14 PM 

    It is not up to Nazim to decide if he is a muslim or not. It is up to the Maldivian Law which will dictate and decide his relegion. Even if Nazim says he is not a Muslim … we shall tell him just to shut up … it’s not up to him to decide. Tell Nazim to just shut up and go to heaven. The government of Maldives has decided that all Maldivians will be Muslims, and thats final. I would appreciate if the concerned authorities and islamic institutes also adapt methods of forcing prayers, fasting and zakath etc. It would be easy for 3 or 4 Salaf boys to hold on to a struggling youth, and phisically force him to prostrate. After all its our responsibility to get every Maldivian to heaven.

  100. Many Nazims on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:19 PM 

    Some commenters accuse Nazim of “breaking national unity”. What national unity are these people taking about!? Anyone who has not been under a rock for the past decade knows there is no unity on anything in this country. Has these commenters never seen a session of the Majlis on TV? Contrary to the accusations of these commenters Nazim has in fact united all the political parties who are all trying to be holier-than-thou in trying to denounce him!

    These hypocrites do not value “national unity” when it comes to playing their political games. But the moment some ordinary person airs his views on religion he has to be sacrificed at tbe alter of “national unity”!

    Nazim is a hero not only for being courageous enough to express his dissent in front of a hostile mass, but also because he has exposed the hypocrisy of those spouting “national unity” as something that must supersede all individual freedoms. He has also forced the society to face the facts about Maldivian religious identity. The real reason why so many are angry at him is because he has revealed their hypocrisy and also forced them to face the facts about non-Muslim Maldivians. They are angry that they can no longer hide under the cover of “100% Muslim Nation”.

  101. Andy on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:36 PM 

    @Mariama @Ahmed Fazeel

    Tell me what Nazim said to refute any verse of the Quran when Dr.Zakir Naik asked that question? Nazim’s answer was that he has to find a reason to read quran and on the contrary he head mentioned that he read translation of the quran several times. I would have given a credit to Nazim if he has refuted any verse of Quran with logic and established evidence however his questions were not based on intellect instead he acted like a moron. And see how you people have tried to distort the very fact that happened infront of a massive audience.

  102. na t on Mon, 31st May 2010 6:46 PM 

    poor naxim..”may Allah guide us & him to the right path”

  103. aish on Mon, 31st May 2010 7:18 PM 

    Nazim looks like a mini haabee. His berd is a tid bit shorter than Naiks. Anyone noticed?

  104. gaskandaa on Mon, 31st May 2010 9:09 PM 

    You better see this Hadith before commenting,
    Narrated “Ali”
    I relate the traditions of Allah’s Apostle to you for I would rather fall from the sky than attribute something to him falsely. But when I tell you a thing which is between you and me, then no doubt, war is guile. I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “In the last days of this world there will appear some young foolish people who will use (in their claim) the best speech of all people (i.e. the Qur’an) and they will abandon Islam as an arrow going through the game. Their belief will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have practically no belief), so wherever you meet them, kill them, for he who kills them shall get a reward on the Day of Resurrection.”
    Sahih Bukhari, volume 4, virtues of merits of the Prophet(Pbuh) and his companions, Hadhith no:808

  105. Mohd Hameed on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:18 PM 

    Have the people of Maldives ever heard of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

    Have they ever heard of freedom of religion?

    This is a very shameful incident! It makes all Muslims look like Barbarians.

  106. Marina on Mon, 31st May 2010 10:32 PM 

    I think this must have been one of the worst moments in Naiks public speech history. We could clearly see that he was unable to convince Nazim and became insecure. Just came up with some kindergarden food/doctor/teacher/poison story. A good scholar would have offered him consultation after the lecture, but since he is making money out of religion – why should he? However, Nazim did not ask him to convince him, but about his verdict.
    Good teachers like questioning students, good doctors will answer patient’s questions! Being asked to “shut up and believe” stops us from questioning, and therefore learning and mentally evolving.

  107. Naked Swimmer on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 1:19 AM 

    Every Maldivian is castrated and lobotomized. There is no cure or procedure or or re-boot.

    A handful of Maldivians escape this lobotomy and castration. But they are soon devoured by the cannibalistic mob of castrated and lobotomized zombies

  108. opy on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 2:49 AM 

    I call the government to release Nazim and the other maldivian arrested yesterday for claiming to be Jesus.

  109. Wine Lover on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 2:56 AM 

    Marina, Islam does not permit questioning. Mr Naik was simply following his Quran.

    “O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble…” (5:101)

    “Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith…” (5:102)

    Islam is an insecure, totalitarian cult. There are no good teachers and good doctors among the mullahs. All they will say is “shut-up and believe” as Mr Naik has said.

    Now I can envision a massive barrage of “out of context, out of context” coming my way, as Muslims don’t know much else to say when the Quran is scrutinised.

  110. monothiest on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 4:04 AM 

    ދަންނައެ. މުރުތައްދުވެއްޖެ މީހާގެ ހުކުމަކީ މެރުމެވެ.

  111. Ibrahim Shakir on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 4:28 AM 

    The guy’s a hero! But he certainly is not the only non-muslim or the first. if the constitution says we have to be muslim before we can hold a Maldivian passport cos I been travelling on one for years, and it’s been taking me to places where I can drink my alcohol, take my drugs, make love to women, visit places of significance to other religions – from temples to churches, and it’ll continue to do so in the future. A toast to the legend, Nazim! HA!

  112. Ibrahim Shakir on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 5:06 AM 

    Ok, let me be a little more civil about this. Several reasons why Islam doesn’t make sense (not just the only ones though):

    - It claims we are all human beings and hence that we are all equal, but christians are still wrong for believing in a son of god, and jews are wrong for not accepting islam, which more or less makes them inferior in the eyes of islam… kinda contradictory to the whole idea of equality, don’t you think??
    - We are all equal, and yet only the ‘people of the book’ are allowed to marry each other. But even that is between a Muslim man and woman from a Christian or Jewish background.. not a Jewish/Christian man to a Muslim woman.. why not?
    - We are all equal, yet we ridicule religions that are of different origins to islam. We call them idol-worshippers and what not, without any knowledge of what most of these religions are. Simple case in point is, that most religions we call ‘idol worshippers’ don’t actually worship the idols.. they worship what is represented by the idols.. not just simply the idols!
    - Islam was sent by Allah to the whole world. Makes one wonder why he only sent prophets to what we now call The Middle East, when there is clear scientific evidence that people have been living all over the world for thousands of years.. including the Maldives. And don’t go bagging science, cos I believe the scientific method was first adopted by Muslims and used by Muslims to further our knowledge of the world as Allah wants us to? Correct me if I’m wrong..
    - I, for one, think the idea of an eternal life is absolutely ridiculous. I imagine it would be boring, meaningless and pointless if you can sit on your lazy ass and get everything you wish for, for all of eternity.. makes no sense to me!!!
    - Eternal damnation to the unrepentant, the apostates etc etc.. hang on, isn’t Allah supposed to be forgiving and merciful? If anyone supposedly deserves eternal damnation in the eyes of Allah, how forgiving is he exactly? If we’re gonna talk about forgiving, isn’t the Buddhist/Hindhu idea of being reincarnated as a lower life form more forgiving than ETERNAL damnation???

    Just a few little pointers to keep in mind when you go around bashing people with your stupid holy books! Feel free to add more or just call on the government to carry out a mass execution of us non-believers.. depending on how forgiving you are I guess, heh!

  113. SHLO NAIVE KIDH on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 5:24 AM 

    Who said Maldivians are only Muslims?

    Maldivians for a long time have practiced 2 religions openly. Football and Islam.

  114. Glen on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 6:04 AM 

    There are very few things I would voluntarily die for, but rejecting such a religion would be worth it. I deeply hope Nazim is let free, if not he has chosen a noble thing for which to be a martyr. If that happens it will never be forgotten; such senseless violence is always self defeating.

  115. Marina on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 8:22 AM 

    @Mohd Hameed

    The Maldives have not committed themselves to the full declaration of the UN Human rights. They have reservations to Article 18:

    “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance”

  116. Nazim's my hero on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 9:24 AM 

    Nazim is the greatest, bravest maldivian who ever lived by a long mile… To suffer for standing up for what you believe is always hard, but it is a million times harder if you are not respected as a hero but as an outcast for doing so… When Anni and reformists resisted Maumoon, their suffering was worshipped by the people which made it far easier to undergo arrest and torture… Anni and co. had the support of the masses…They were heroes… But to make a stand which you will not be worshipped for, but shunned and rejected for, now that is a true hero, that takes more balls, soul and courage guts than anything I have seen…
    Nazim is a million times stronger spiritually than Anni or anyone, I am going to carry a picture of that crazy hairy wild hero in my wallet to remind me of true sacrifice!!! Nazim is a billion times braver than any Muslim martyr, than anyone else in Male!

  117. SHLO NAIVE KIDH on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 10:21 AM 

    I wonder why, when Maldivians get sick and are not happy with medical services available locally, they go to Bangkok instead of Saudi Arabia to pray.

    Salaf and Islamic foundation must correct this situation and get them to go to Saudi Arabia. If a poor can’t afford Salaf and Islamic foundation must use their influence with their Saudi partners and arrange free flights and so that they can go and pray there.

  118. Visceral apathy on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 10:24 AM 

    @ Nazim’s my hero,

    I was just wondering whether you think Adolf Hitler is a hero?

    I mean he did stand up for what he believed and raised an army which plunged the world in to an abyss of chaos for half a decade.

    And he is “shunned and rejected” by almost all of mankind. So is Adolf Hitler a hero???

    Are you going to carry a picture of Hitler along with Nazim’s picture in your wallet??

  119. Rays of Reflection on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 11:01 AM 

    Obviously Nazim’s actions have struck a chord with many Maldivian. Contrary to a lot of the above comments almost very single Maldivians is a Muslim.

    Some practice it, some don’t.

    And among those who don’t devoutly practice the religion, I don’t think there is a wide spread sentiment considering themselves to be atheists or agnostics.

    With that said, as A Ahmed has said in a previous comment “undoubtedly, his action has antagonized many Maldivians and left an adverse impact on our closely knitted society . In deed this is a harbinger of many of such stuff yet to come.”

    The question now is what his punishment should be for such a provocation.

    Since there is no death penalty in The Maldivian Penal Code I personally think that we should sentence him to life in a super maximum security jail without possibility of parole.

    “Objective is to provide long term, segregated housing for inmates classified as the highest security risks in the prison system – the “worst of the worst” criminals and those who pose a threat to national security.”
    Source: Wikipedia.com

    He is among the worst of the worst and he does pose a threat to our national security. So lock him up and throw away the keys.

    Also we should have the same punishment for murderers, rapist and pedophiles. Especially the pedophiles.

  120. Ahmed Anony on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 11:15 AM 

    @Visceral: Show me one case where this Nazim carried out the crime of genocide, ethnocide, unprovoked invasion and other assorted crimes on Maldives.

    As far as I can see, his only “crime” was honesty.

    Ah yes, Maldivian law is famous for trumping up charges. Harks me back to the good ol’ days of war, when Maumoon bin Elfboy was in power.

  121. Cuckoo on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 11:21 AM 

    @Visceral apathy

    Way to go! Missed “Nazim’s my hero”‘s point entirely! I admit it does take a guy with one-degree vision to equate Hitler with Nazim. In your mind, a guy who caused the death of millions and unbelievable suffering is on par with someone who had the courage to stand and and state his PERSONAL opinion??
    You really must let us know where you learned mathematics. Bravo!

  122. Cuckoo on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 11:28 AM 

    I wonder who is more dangerous, Nazim or the brain-washed masses calling for his beheading? Seriously, if the very idea of existing in the same world as “kaafirs” is enough to send you off into a bloodthirsty frenzy, it is YOU, not Nazim, who needs to be put down for the safety of the rest of the SANE population.

  123. Cuckoo on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 11:40 AM 

    I am stupified by some of the comments here. Behead him? Lock him up and throw away the key?
    Anyone know how many murderers, rapists, pedophiles, psycopaths with “licence to cut” and even terrorists are roaming about the streets of every island?
    The fact that a convicted terrorist’s whereabouts have been unknown for more than 4 months doesnt raise an eyebrow, but simply state a personal opinion and the hounds are after you!
    Just like land, Maldivians seemed to have been on the tail end when brains were handed out.

  124. heck on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 11:44 AM 

    @Marina,

    Ok, Just for apostasy death is not the answer. BUT what do you see daily on Minivan News? Isn’t that maligning Islam? Are you sure apostates will leave Islam alone and mind there own business. WELL! Looking at the comments on this site – it’s IMPOSSIBLE for apostates to keep their godforsaken ideas (which if almost always maligning Islam) to themselves, so in the same breath Zakir Naik said, IF, you start maligning Islam, THEN, THEN, THEN, your punishment is DEATH! The moment he is set free – he is sure to come and blast his TIRADE against Islam on Minivan News! So you see Islamic decisions are very intelligent and foolproof if applied correctly.

  125. Anon on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 11:47 AM 

    @ Naked swimmer

    Isn’t the “un-castrated”, “un-lobotomized” handful who are the perversions, the trouble makers, those who are wrong as majority rules, Black sheep and so on???

    See the majority is castrated and lobotomized, Therefore that’s the norm. Therefore there is no problem which is why it’s called the NORM!!!

    norm
    n
    1. an average level of achievement or performance, as of a group or person
    2. a standard of achievement or behaviour that is required, desired, or designated as normal
    3. (Sociology) Sociol an established standard of behaviour shared by members of a social group to which each member is expected to conform
    - http://www.thefreedictionary.com-

  126. heck on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 12:02 PM 

    @Marina

    Ehem, Ehem!
    So if you were there you would have told Zakir Naik that why he should not ROB is because he should be GOOD?! Pakkkasssss!

    Well! I think he said that as far as he, the ROBBER is concerned he is LOGICAL, SCIENTIFIC and GOOD, that’s why he was robbing. Why should he believe in others trying to prove that he was illogical and not GOOD!?

    Marina baby! YOUR LOGIC AGAIN, simply out of this world! Hats off to you, and my best regards to your LOGIC!

  127. Ogun on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 4:09 PM 

    How many Maldivians are really Muslim at heart and how many Maldivians are Muslim only by citizenship ?
    This is the real question.
    Heart and brain can’t be dictated by government or politician or mullah.
    Only God decide.

  128. pappu on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 4:53 PM 

    Nazim’s reversion back to Islam certainly indicates that Islam is the only true religion. His actions are justified by his lack of islamic education and the influence of people who are trying continuously to break our national unity.

    I call on the government to provide islamic education in our schools to avoid such incidents.

    Further, we also should put pressure (non-violently) on the people (like the minivan news journalists, Salim Waheed, Aniya, Hilath , and such people) who tries continously to impose their distorted ideology on the majority maldivians.

  129. From Northern Europe with love on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 5:38 PM 

    This may be offensive, and it is, but it’s the harsh truth: many young Europeans and Americans (and even many East Asians I’ve talked with) view Muslims as barbarians.

    Cases such as this aren’t really helping to reverse their misconceptions.

    It’s unfortunate, and I often dread for the future of our planet.

  130. mujey on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 6:02 PM 

    yes .. alhamdhu lillaah…. now people will know if the misconcept are there where to go and whome to ask …. do it before its too late …insha ALLAH…ALLAH will guide us all to light …. PAPPU is rite ..let us all get together and make others come to rite path …. without violence and proove to the world … islam means peace…

  131. Observer on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 6:38 PM 

    There is no country that is 100% Muslim, Buddhist or Christian, not even Saudi, Bhutan or Vatican City. ALLAH looks at the heart of man not by lip service. This is clearly a political game. Different NGOs are trying to score points. I wonder how much petrol money the leaders or Salaf and Islamic foundation has been pocketing without the knowledge of their members.
    I have “wind” that one NGOs’ leader had pocketed a 5 figures sums in US$ for championing for a particular case last December. Poor Nazim, you will be punished but your loose is someone’s gain! This is Dhivehi Raajje.

  132. Zayan on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 7:58 PM 

    Sorry for the previous comment, failed copy-paste:

    As a Maldivian, I do not believe in freedom of religion: we have been living under the relative unity and identity of Islam for 19 full centuries, and I will not allow it to be broken by some Western concept of freedom of religion, that is barely over half a century old.

    As a Muslim, I don’t believe that this fellow should be executed; apostates should be given the chanece to repent. If they don’t, on a minimum basis, their citizenship should be revoked, or they should be banished.

  133. Jimmy on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 8:04 PM 

    Hard to believe anyone takes Naik seriously. Can a robber realise he is bad, without life after death? What an idiot. Of course he can!

    The answer is the rule of law, as practised the world over, muslim or not, but better than that, he must be persuaded that robbery is wrong, because he learns to respect others, not because he is frightened of God or frightened of Hell.

    I am afraid for the future if religious people think Naik has ‘logic’ when he has the opposite.

    Nazim is courageous and intelligent, learn from him, do not persecute him

  134. ihedenius on Tue, 1st Jun 2010 10:24 PM 

    “Nazim’s reversion back to Islam certainly indicates that Islam is the only true religion.”

    Or it could be the thuggish death-threats …

    “.let us all get together and make others come to rite path …. without violence and proove to the world … islam means peace…”

    Reminds me of the joke:
    “Behead whose who say islam is violent”
    except it’s barely a joke (just a little photoshopped)
    http://sciencenotes.wordpress.com/2007/12/01/behead-those-who-say-islam-is-violent/

  135. heck on Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 4:55 PM 

    @From Northern Europe with(hate).

    If you think Islam is a barbaric religion, then what is your religion?
    Christianity? Did you ever read the Bible?

    I think this verse from the Bible played a very important role in creating white imperial rule over much of the world.

    Luke 19:27 “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.”

    This verse must have been the inspiration to kill all those innocent human beings in the name of holy war and inquisition!!

    Yeah – go on and talk about barbarism!

  136. heck on Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 5:00 PM 

    @Jimmy

    Jimmy boy, trying to justify why robbing is bad?

    Well! The robber thinks he is SANE and he is the RULE of LAW! How can you convince him that robbing is bad for HIM when he is the LAW and he LOGICAL?

    Kekeke, fidgeting, huh?

  137. heck on Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 5:02 PM 

    @Atheists

    YOU PEOPLE NEED TO REFORM – you can’t prove that robbing is bad ? Shame on you!

  138. Rafiki on Wed, 2nd Jun 2010 11:08 PM 

    In the long run the Maldives will be under water and this so-called civilization will be forgotten. Disputes concerning an imaginary entity in the heavens will be a humourous anecdote for future historians to ponder.
    Nothing to worry about, untermenschen!

  139. heck on Fri, 4th Jun 2010 12:12 AM 

    @Dylan

    Where do you think you are staged? A Western country?

  140. visnaalaa on Fri, 4th Jun 2010 10:12 AM 

    I request all the members in MINIVAN NEWS to read TRANSLATION OF QURAN.To enrich ur knowledge.

  141. forex robot on Sat, 5th Jun 2010 9:13 AM 

    What a great resource!

  142. terrorgal on Mon, 7th Jun 2010 10:27 PM 

    yeah bring in the terrorists, make this nation a terror haven. then you can proceed with the killings of the kafirs and rule the world as you wish…all coz they dont believe in what you believe.

    i still cant figure out how ‘peace’ comes with this particular brand of belief…how humanity comes last in the list.

    sad that one has to be bound just because society decides that one has to be bound. who made them God? who is this God that demands absolute control, absolute power, who creates enmity between His creation?

    oh! i forgot the kafirs may not be His creation…they are definitely of some other God…thats why they gotta go, they gotta be wiped out…destroyed..

    as long as people belong to one belief then they are humans? brothers?? then they are society? then they should live??

    The real God only requires you to come to Him out of your own free will, He never forces His hand on anyone…everyone in his own way acknowledges Him as God…so easy yet so impossible to reach???

    The things we do for God or in His name sometimes and we dont even know if it is valid or right??

    Touch your very heart and think about it!

  143. Monir Hasan on Tue, 8th Jun 2010 12:54 AM 

    Well … I am Monir Hasan from Bangladesh … here like to SALUTE Nazim vai … for his outstanding bravery and stand for the truth. We ex-muslim atheist are less than minors and treated all the way same like Nazim vai in Muslim majority countries. As you know, Muslims made themselves the Dumbest among all the religion, still living in stone age, have no recent sign that they will improve the situation. Yeah … Here this comment section is that good indication.

    Joker Nayek: the stupidest lecturer with complete controlled environment full of dumbest muslim crowd … speeches “Logic”(?)! … How pathetic!

    Here’s you can see Nazim never claimed any best food … but that Joker questioned nazim as he did, when that stupid joker himself easily can be questioned for claiming best food, best book, best God, best religion etc. And here’s you can see the subject – “Robbing” suddenly out of no where comes to make joke on Nazim (though Nazim never had the chance to clarify or establishing the logic). Well any literate person having least knowledge on sociology or social science knows that robbing is not moral … cause of its nature. Robbing creates a chain chaos to the society … long before even Mohammad shouted out of the cave or Marry claiming her virginity or the Noah’s fancy disaster management … human society prohibited robbing. The value of … the morality of … the logic of “robbing is no good thing to do” is no mystical voice or god send commandment.

    Well … pathetic that the dumber the lecturer … the dumbest the audience. A great stupidity just staged here.

  144. heck on Thu, 17th Jun 2010 2:56 PM 

    @Monir Hasan

    My dear Bengali..

    “Well any literate person having least knowledge on sociology or social science knows that robbing is not moral … cause of its nature. Robbing creates a chain chaos to the society..”

    Well! The robber thinks that he is SANE and he is LOGICAL and SCIENTIFIC and he is the No:1 MAFIA.

    This gibberish won’t prove to HIM that robbing is bad. kekeke! If you try to use force to make him change his mind – YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN?? Dishhooon, Dishoooon! Because he is LOGICAL, my dear!

  145. eric on Sat, 19th Jun 2010 5:01 AM 

    guys, seriously:
    why is it so difficult to let someone express their opinions? what happened in the minds of people while growing up that they can honestly say and believe a human being should be killed because of their opinion?
    if you are truly a believer, and realise the power of god, why would you not instead wish fortune and wisdom to this person and hope one day he will see who god is…
    all you do is to propagate a god of hatred and intolerance, while as robots exclaim “peace be upon him….”

    wake up and realise there is no peace in your words or actions, and one day god will remind you of that by exclaiming i do not know you…

  146. Felix Shayaan on Sun, 20th Jun 2010 9:47 PM 

    Bismi ‘llahi r-rahmāni r-rahim. Again the great Maldivian Umma is showing its incompetence. A 100% Islamic Nation is trembled by a single man’s personal matters. Don’t you guys have other matters to sort out? Peace upon Nazim and the Maldives.

  147. fatumath on Mon, 28th Jun 2010 3:32 AM 

    @ heck – 4:55 PM
    Religion, religion, religion! Nothing better to do all day, heck?
    You talk always about the past (it´s an old rhetorical trick applied in the hope that others are not able to counter!), the past of hundreds of years ago, and you have not realized that for the past nobody gives a damn nowadays.
    Acting according to Luke 19:27 (and many other vile claims in the old and newer testament) would grant the perpetrators, be it in the USA or in Europe, a life jail term handed over after a full criminal court procedure. Regarding the former inquisition, forget about it. As you know, Westerners live in democracies where secular law overrules the ancient church laws. Church laws, to the detriment of the organized church leaders, have NO importance in our democracies. The church has to submit to secular law and if they are not prepared to do so, the courts will force them.
    I never hear you talk about the miserable conditions of the average islamic state, i.e. their populations. I certainly do not have to list them here for you.
    Many of them, Maldives being one of them for sure, are travelling around asking for money – for western money mostly. It should not have escaped you, that your personal arch-enemy, the USA, has just granted many more $ millions to the Nasheed government for “climate adaption”, LOL! And how much money did you receive recently from the EU in Brussels? And from the IMF? FYI, 40% of all the IMF funds are being provided by the USA because they are the biggest member of the IMF.
    The USA is also the biggest supplier of food which you can often see on TV when those big bags are being distributed by the unholy UN. They show the words: “A gift from the people of the USA”.
    Ever read words like a gift from Pakistan, Sudan or the Maldives?
    The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has just granted $ 1.5 BILLION at the G-8 to alleviate mother and child poverty – guess where?
    Have YOU and your gang ever considered working and becoming productive members of Maldivian society? Hard to consider because you and your salafist friends appear to hang around message boards most of the time. But go on, heck! The day will come when your tourist numbers start to decline fast. Westerners who have spent holidays in resorts DO read often your papers after returning home. Many ask themselves why they were willing to spend hard earned money in such a weird and obviously still not free country with a constitution that provokes revolt in every western mind.
    Is Islam so weak that it has to be protected 24/7? Is it so weak that the slightest dissent is forbidden?
    I give you an idea how to spend your time better: learn something (besides “religion”), get a job, earn your own money and try not to harm your friends, neighbours and compatriots. If you can manage that, I would praise you for it(and probably your God too).

  148. shanikwa on Mon, 28th Jun 2010 7:58 PM 

    What a great religion Islam is. We will kill you if you do not believe in it any more. Funny thing is the Maldives is FULL of atheists and Agnostics. This guy isn’t any different other than he has some balls to get up in front of a crowd and say it. If Islam was perfect you would not have to make a law such as this, as no one would ever want to leave. Do you honestly think this poor guy converted back to Islam? haha if you do, you are suckers hahaha. He quite obviously did this to save his neck. I DARE the Maldivian government to execute him…see how many tourists you get to your backward country..

  149. shanikwa on Mon, 28th Jun 2010 8:09 PM 

    Any person who watched Naik’s speech had their IQ lowered by 10 points.

  150. Maria on Thu, 8th Jul 2010 5:59 PM 

    I now get to see the truth of the Maldives. I have Muslim friends, here in the United States, and I accept and tolerate their religion. I am a Catholic. If I visited the Maldives and was open about my religion would Muslims in Maldives call for my execution? I would like to visit the entire world, however Maldives doesn’t seem to be a place where I would spend my hard earned dollars any time soon.

  151. Ahmed Anony on Tue, 13th Jul 2010 12:28 PM 

    And yet these so-called religious NGOS and other loudmouths are silent when disabled girls are sexually abused.

    You know what I call that?. Silent approval.

  152. enx on Fri, 16th Jul 2010 7:15 PM 

    And another killed himself… what the hell…. Maldivians! Wake up!

  153. Axel on Tue, 27th Jul 2010 6:13 PM 

    @Heck

    LOL Poor dumbass…Name one positive thing Islam has contributed to humanity…Not Muslims or your poor countries, but humanity

    While you’re thinking about that whole thing, ask yourself why Muslims are so insecure about thier faith…

  154. Bismuth on Tue, 27th Jul 2010 7:59 PM 

    @Axel on Tue, 27th Jul 2010 6:13 PM
    LOL,LOL,LOL….;) You are totally WRONG! I believe you have just visited earth or perhaps woke up after a deep hibernation for 2000 years. ;)

  155. shanikwa on Sun, 1st Aug 2010 10:30 PM 

    Bismuth You failed to answer Axel’s question..what did islam do to contribute to humanity…or what does it do now to contribute. Oh and I don’t consider jihad a contribution.

  156. heck on Mon, 2nd Aug 2010 8:07 AM 

    @shanikwa

    “Oh and I don’t consider jihad a contribution.”

    The world is accepting gay-marriages in the masses except Islam which is one fifth of humanity.

    So consider Islam is contributing to HUMANITY by rejecting them. With gay- marriages how long do you expect HUMANITY to last?!

    Consider yourself DEBUNKED?

  157. heck on Mon, 2nd Aug 2010 8:13 AM 

    @Axel

    “ask yourself why Muslims are so insecure about thier faith…”

    On the contrary I would like to tell you it’s just the other way around!

    Looks like you are standing on your head!

  158. heck on Mon, 2nd Aug 2010 8:38 AM 

    @fatumath

    {“The USA is also the biggest supplier of food which you can often see on TV when those big bags are being distributed by the unholy UN. They show the words: “A gift from the people of the USA”}

    Yeah! There is an even BIGGER self interest hidden in each of those big bags! People at the receiving end normally digest those food and poop on the stars and stripes!

    You must have seen on TV how well those gifts are actualy received?

    I heard that USA was actually founded by a terrorist! Look at a one dollar note to see him honourned and glorified!

    Now fighting AGAINST terror AFTER fighting BEHIND a terrorist?!

    With this they could qualify as the most HYPOCRITICAL country in the world!

    How do you feel, fatumath?

  159. Champas on Mon, 9th Aug 2010 6:10 AM 

    this guy want to influence the politic in maldive and one behind is supporting him
    another thing in koran ” lakom dinokom wa lya dini ” you have your religion and i have my religion so if he want to change his relgion so go
    islam it’s a peace religion .

  160. kirkland on Tue, 24th Aug 2010 1:12 AM 

    I do not practise any religion as I feel my parents have done an outstanding job of allowing me to develope sound values and morals. There is way to much death associated with religion. Why can’t everyone just live and let live. If your good book has so many punished by death for offences where no other being was effected, then I say to hell with your so called “good book.” To hell with anyone who is extreme enough to agree with the death of Nazim. Just being associated with something so barbaric and disgusting, you are criminal.

    I just wish there was a way for everyone to live in peace and forget religion. Science will disprove everything (god based) in good time…

  161. French Lady on Sun, 5th Sep 2010 7:26 PM 

    THANK YOU Maldivians for providing yet more reasons to refuse muslim immigrants and be very firm on those who are in our country. Salafist and other extremist groups are trying to intimidate our gvt. Once again, we can see that islam is a barbarian religion in other countries other than the Middle East.

    Good Luck to those of you who are intelligent and brave.

    For me, Maldives is a tourist destination. Didn’t even know it was muslim. Now, I know more. I don’t think I would ever go there for a holiday. Think about that.

  162. Xa-yanu on Wed, 8th Sep 2010 1:24 PM 

    @French Lady,

    It doesn’t make a difference whether you come here for a holiday or not, though your beliefs are highly bigoted.

  163. john on Mon, 21st Mar 2011 8:52 PM 

    what a great religion islam is ?

    it cant even tolerate 0% freedom and free will!!

    No reason,we dislike it 100%.

    Why the hell indian govt is not banning this extremist?
    he is trying to score points over other religion!!

    He is a lunatic and GOI should not use him to gain vote bank!!

    No doubt congress and chinese party of india for minority are greatest appeasers

  164. bottled water on Tue, 20th Sep 2011 5:29 PM 

    i’m muslim, and i will keep muslim,
    allahu akbar….Danger of bottled and plastic

  165. Ernest on Thu, 17th Nov 2011 10:46 AM 

    Zakir Naik cleary preaches that islam is terrorism. So both Zakir Naik and his preaching are a threat to humanity. He must be imprisoned and his assets confiscated.


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